Biodiesel Swarm

An army of green machines...imagine a soy fleet of diesel mopeds!

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That would be with out a doubt the coolest thing ever, imagine rolling up to micky D's ordering an egg mcmuffin and fillin up your tank from their fryer oil at the same time.

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Picture!

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Biodiesel Swarm

Steamboat Aka J. R. Stevens /

How about 4*strokes instead?

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I have run two strokes on soy based biolube and they seem to run well

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we make biodiesel and run it in the rabbit,

but i'd like to hear more about the two stroke and the biolube

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I will be doing biodiesel/wvo conversion on my Mercedes Benz 300SD. First I have to get it running right on diesel though. I just did an engine swap on it.

I have always thought of making a diesel powered moped, I was thinking a 4-stroke engine from an old diesel generator? It would end up more like a mini-bike I think.

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What is the smallest diesel engine I can buy out there?

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You can buy r/c engines that run diesel. Those would be the smallest.

I have personally seen as low as 4hp diesel engines. That would make a moped big and heavy.

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Allen Murphy /

I've avoided 4-stroke diesels like the plague--if you break a timing belt, you get a valve crash, and usually trash out the head.

Damn things are real dirty to work on compared to a gasoline engine--other than the milage, IMHO, they're not worth the bother for an auto engine.

At 20:1 compression, I sure wouldn't want to pedal start on of them!

Al Murphy

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but you could climb trees with it! so much power.

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Yeah,

You would be able to pull a car out of a ditch with all that low-end diesel power.

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we have diesel motorbikes we're trying out, the'll be here in a month or so, a few in denver one one here in minneapolis

slow going but at 180 mpg who cares

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Steamboat Aka J. R. Stevens /

A 2-stroke might run well for a while on peanut oil. you wouldn't know what damage was done until you do a scientific comparison.I' not that smart so I leave the testing to the pro's. Mean while I will stay with the manufacturer"s reccomended oils.

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Here is the web page about biolube,

I picked up a couple quarts in belfast maine

I have run it in a honda hobbit, a weed wacker, and my suzuki t500

but I do not have any long time use I could tell you about

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iT WOULD HELP IF I REMEMBERED THE LINK

http://www.frontierenergy.org/biolube.htm

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very cool, thanks for the link

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Josha Anderson /

I'm really intrested in disel motorbikes, I was unaware they existed, where did you get it, do you have a link? an old roomate of mine had a VW golf truck on veggie oil, had the seprate tank with a heater. I cant imagine trying to start that thing in the winter here in minnesota though, it was hard enough to start with regular diesel when it was 50 digreese out. the guy bought the truck for way too much, $3000 I think for an 81 with 200K, but he was from CA, so go figure. the problume with those old VW's is they have no power and are pretty rare in the US. anyone know of a website showing you how to make bio motor oil?

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NO POWER??

Ok, maybe a little slow acceleration, but certainly not no power...

I have a MB 300sd that i have had up to 110 and it was still pulling. I carry a towing chain to pull the stuck SUVs and TRUCKs out of ditches, all of the diesel low end torque.

Also, with your friend with the two tank set-up, it would not be any harded to start up on a cold day that It was before with just the diesel. THe two tank system uses two tanks, one for WVO and one for DIESEL, you start-up on diesel until everything gets hot enough then you flip a switch that activates a switchover valve that lets WVO into the engine. Then, before you shut down you flip it back to diesel so you can start up again on diesel the next time.

I dont know much about VW's but my car starts just as well as a regular one would. Also, I can keep up with the acceleration of most gassers.

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This is what I would be talking about, Maybe a diesel mini-bike or gocart. Would be hard to mout a 76 lb. engine on a moped... lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11754&item=3856931028&rd=1

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well with a turbo(your's is the turbo,right?) the MB will keep up, but a normally aspirated 4 cyl is WAY slow on the go even a well tuned MB

and those pick up's are a little lacking on power as well as speed

But the Motorbikes, that's the real ticket

yea, we've been looking for years and found the right place and the right man, the only person in the world that will do this conversion, as far as we know. I can't say much about it right now but in a month or so we'll have our business web site up and running-it'll all be there for ya

but if your interested look in Germany allot of good stuff going on there in the diesel motorbike seen.

if your in the minneapolis area this summer, we'll have one or two at the shop along with other odd ball stuff. look us up-

(well, nothing to really "look up" right now but like i said in a month or so)

-BlueCat Motors-

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Steamboat Aka J. R. Stevens /

Features Include:

Single Cylinder

Air-Cooled

Pull Start

Compression Release

5PS ( approx 5hp ) @ 3000rpm, cont.

5.5PS (approx 5.5hp ) @3600rpm

0.296L

Engine weight, 33kg/72.6lbs *Only 5HP out of .296L and look at the weight. These are some of the problems with a diesel.

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Yes, My car is a turbodiesel

The 240d (4cyl.) is very much lacking in power though.

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check out car and driver magazine- I think they have an online site.

A couple months ago they had a 5 page story about transforming a diesel car into a burger king mobile- they had places to order parts and all that. It was a pretty interesting read

Nick

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Benny Mnich /

Do you think it will bolt on a moped?

http://www.bankspower.com/im_superrod_oct04.cfm

Initial dyno testing shows that the Banks race diesel will make about 900 lb-ft of torque from 2,500 rpm, and, with a very flat torque curve, maxing out at around 1,000 lb-ft of torque. The race engine produces 700 hp at its Banks-imposed redline of 5,000 rpm. A street version of the road-race truck is being developed simultaneously that will produce 900 hp at an even higher redline. The street version should produce over 1,000 lb-ft of torque, so you diesel lovers, get ready for the time of your lives, as good things are about to happen.

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Patrick Mattison /

How do you convert diesel to biodiesel/BURGER KING mobile?

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The 300SD is a 3 Liter turbocharged diesel.

The 240D is a 2.4 Liter diesel.

The original Rabbit was a 1.5 Liter normally aspirated diesel.

It had 48 HP and was quite sluggish, though I sure did like the 50MPG I was getting on mine.

You could make a choice at the bottom of a hill - either turn off the AC or stay at the bottom of the hill.

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All diesels can run on veggie oil, and several other things, though they must be started on diesel for something like 5 min. and then swithched over. there are many conversions available, and you can get the oil damn near, if not free. The only drawback I really see is that when running on veggie oil your vehicle will smell like whatever was cooked in the oil-be it fries, chicken or fish, so you will always have fat chicks chasing you down trying to get some food.

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How many gallons of vegetable or soy oil can farmers produce per acre? Anyone know?

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LOL

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