Re: No retalitation to come

Miguel /
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first: suicide is not always about cowardice. is throwing oneself on a hand grenade to save friends cowardice? is volunteering for the forlorne hope (the front wave of a ground assault) an act of cowardice since it virtually guarantees death? we need to be more careful. the suicide attackers weren't afraid. that's clear. they were many things, but not afraid. we need to recognize that because retaliations to anything we do will come. how do you deter or "scare" people who are perfectly willing to die?

second: i know i may be a bit idealistic. but please don't speak on behalf of god. i consider myself religious. god is god; no one speaks for god but god. but ... read the new testament. you'll find that there is very little support for the death penalty there. and ... if you're a christian ... the new testament trumps the old. for the record, i'm very anti-death penalty, just as most catholics and progressive protestants are.

regardless ... if you read the quote i put up, you'll notice that i'm not opposed to retaliation. i'm not even opposed to using violence (i'm not a pacifist). but we can strike in righteous anger w/o becoming savage ourselves. that's the point camus makes. we can strike evil w/o pity while at the same time not becoming inhuman ourselves.

btw, this is turning into an interesting conversation. i appreciate that. now i'm off to mass.

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  No retalitation to comeTopic by: big fat bully big fat bully 09/11/01 08:52PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Nick Nick 09/11/01 09:28PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: big fat bully big fat bully 09/11/01 11:42PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: big fat bully big fat bully 09/11/01 11:44PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: dan dan 09/11/01 11:59PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Miguel Miguel 09/12/01 01:59AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: jim jim 09/12/01 11:01PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Heyde Heyde 09/12/01 11:42AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Bob Bob 09/12/01 03:47AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Miguel Miguel 09/12/01 10:48AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Peggy Peggy 09/12/01 02:01PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: chris chris 09/12/01 03:22PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Miguel Miguel 09/12/01 04:02PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: jim jim 09/12/01 11:12PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Wayne Broderick Wayne Broderick 09/12/01 11:57PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: big fat bully big fat bully 09/13/01 10:32AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: jim jim 09/13/01 09:21PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Miguel Miguel 09/14/01 01:12AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: don-ohio don-ohio 09/14/01 05:23AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Miguel Miguel 09/14/01 12:21PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: don-ohio don-ohio 09/15/01 12:24AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Wayne Wayne 09/15/01 01:32AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: don-ohio don-ohio 09/15/01 01:48AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Wayne Wayne 09/15/01 01:50AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: don-ohio don-ohio 09/15/01 01:52AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Wayne Wayne 09/15/01 02:08AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: don-ohio don-ohio 09/15/01 02:31AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Miguel Miguel 09/15/01 03:13AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: don-ohio don-ohio 09/15/01 03:28AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Wayne Wayne 09/15/01 01:40AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Richard Richard 09/13/01 01:11PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Miguel Miguel 09/13/01 02:17PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Wayne Broderick Wayne Broderick 09/13/01 07:44PM
  New Trade CenterRe: Wayne Broderick Wayne Broderick 09/15/01 08:28PM
  Re: New Trade CenterRe: don-ohio don-ohio 09/15/01 08:53PM
  Re: New Trade CenterRe: Wayne Broderick Wayne Broderick 09/15/01 08:55PM
  Re: New Trade CenterRe: don-ohio don-ohio 09/15/01 09:21PM
  Re: No retalitation to come - That's what you thinRe: Wynneth Wynneth 09/16/01 10:00PM
  Its not that simpleRe: Fred Fred 09/16/01 11:04PM
  Re: Its not that simple (conspiracy)Re: Wayne Broderick Wayne Broderick 09/17/01 09:29PM
  Re: Its not that simple (conspiracy)Re: miguel miguel 09/18/01 02:17AM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Lane Lane 09/18/01 05:13PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Jimmy Jimmy 09/21/01 03:03PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: Wayne Broderick Wayne Broderick 09/21/01 06:27PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: don-ohio don-ohio 09/21/01 06:38PM
  Re: No retalitation to comeRe: miguel miguel 09/22/01 04:38AM
  No retalitation to come (1st Shots!)Re: Wayne Broderick Wayne Broderick 09/23/01 08:17PM

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