Major Moped Trouble

Sean /

Jul 22, 2001 10:07PM

(No one on www.moped2.org has been able to help me so maybe someone here can.) I got a new Avanti supersport on july 5th. i took it back in on july 18th for a regular check up. the day after i got it back i took it out for a ride and was coming around a curve and down a hill at 30-35 mph, My back tire locked up and i went into a power slide. luckly i pulled out of it and was able the hold it till it stoped, The bike ways about 50lb more than i do so i think i did a damn good job. once i was stoped i was able to tell what was wrong with it. It apears that the bike acted as if the clutch were ingaged. i pushed it to a hill(put ur clutch on and push it 200yds) i finally got on it and pedaled it down the hill fast enough that it started but it started as if i never let the clutch out and would kick out once i stoped moving. Anybody know what might have caused this or how i might be able to fix it? The closest moped shop is an hour and a half away. I realy `dont want to take it in.

Thanx

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gimmyjimmy /

Jul 23, 2001 12:08AM

a new bike with problems like that should immediately be taken back to where you purchased it.

DEMAND repair or replacement.

You could have been hurt bad or killed.

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dave /

Jul 23, 2001 12:20AM

im with gimmiejimmy, take back and/or sue. i hate to see people sue but you're an exception.

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Sean /

Jul 23, 2001 12:32AM

You think they are responcible even though it has been through the break in process? Who would be responcible the store i bought it from or Avanti(Garelli)? Do Avanti's have waranties or an i shit out of luck there?

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gimmyjimmy /

Jul 23, 2001 12:48AM

maybe both,

what papers did ya get,or sign, send in? frame, engine numbers, dealer store number, salesman's name.

all that should be with your owners manual, did ya get one of them?

I don't know what the warranty is on a Garrelli, but I'm sure it's more than 14 days.

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Ken /

Jul 23, 2001 11:45AM

Take it back and make them replace it. My bet is there is no oil in the tranny, My Autopower was delivered to me that way. Ken

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Sean /

Jul 23, 2001 01:19PM

It has oil in the tranmission so that is not the problem. i took it in for a regular service and they were suppose to change the transmission fluid.

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Ron Brown /

Jul 23, 2001 02:01PM

Sean,

The exact problem you have is interesting but does not solve your problem.

Forget the lawer, luckily you suffered no injury and therefore nothing to justify compensation.

Assuming you are in the USA, take your ped back to the dealer you bought it from and explain the symptoms.

Take the time to read the paperwork that came with your ped, all of the warranty info is in there. If it is not, go and ask for it. If you can't get it, find out who regulates this type of business in your state and file a complaint. Document everything or you are wasting your time.

Get a written statement of what they found and how they fixed it in case of future problems.

Do not attempt your own repairs, this is a perfect excuse to void the warranty.

Ron

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Brian Allen /

Jul 24, 2001 03:54AM

Don't fix it, it's evidence. See the yellow pages under ATTORNEYS and sue this guys ass off.

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Sean /

Jul 25, 2001 01:07AM

I have two words to describe you DUMB ASS. I have no damages. I held the bike up so i have no hospital bills no broken objects. did not hert the bike at all except the transmision. A lawyer, judge, the jury, and anybody at the hearing will all laugh at me i would pay more for the lawyer and the court fees than the 20 bucks to fix the Tranmission.

My final thought is the same as my first thought DUMB ASS!!!

Please somebody back me up

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XBrandon EdgeX /

Jul 25, 2001 01:31AM

I've been through the process of suing someone. It can be long and stressful. Luckily, I was under 18 and my parents did all the work (okay, it wasn't that stressful), but it took five years to get $30,000 for a permanently disfigured arm. Plus, if you win, you don't neccesarily get compensated. There are many interesting legal loopholes, like the guilty party claiming bankruptcy so they don't have to pay dollar one. Although suing a private citizen is a whole different story from suing a corporation. A corporation will often times hand you a healthy out-of-court settlement faster than you can say "emotional distress"

But you're right, if you didn't get hurt, you really don't stand a chance in court. Definitely try to get the warranty to pay, though. If it's not your fault, you shouldn't have to pay for repairs on such a new bike.

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Sean /

Jul 25, 2001 01:45AM

My dad took the bike in today(tuesday) but i will ask them when the call and say that it is fixed if the Avanti Supersport comes with a warranty. Thats about all i have that i can do. As i said before" I have no damages so i cant sue" so if it doesnt have a warranty we have to pay. If we do have to pay I am gonna email Avanti and cuss them out since i did have to walk that bike home with a clutch engaged.

Peace

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Ron Brown /

Jul 25, 2001 11:06AM

Sean,

As you can see, I posted this on 7/23, however, I did manage to not refer to those who sugested sueing as "DUMB ASSES". Not that it was easy.

I re-read my post and realized that I did not mention that everything in the US comes with a minimum implied warranty, even if it is not specified. In the case of a Mped, I am sure that it is and you should have no trouble getting it fixed.

Ron

Author: Ron Brown (---.ismi.net)

Date: 07-23-01 13:01

Sean,

The exact problem you have is interesting but does not solve your problem.

Forget the lawer, luckily you suffered no injury and therefore nothing to justify compensation.

Assuming you are in the USA, take your ped back to the dealer you bought it from and explain the symptoms.

Take the time to read the paperwork that came with your ped, all of the warranty info is in there. If it is not, go and ask for it. If you can't get it, find out who regulates this type of business in your state and file a complaint. Document everything or you are wasting your time.

Get a written statement of what they found and how they fixed it in case of future problems.

Do not attempt your own repairs, this is a perfect excuse to void the warranty.

Ron

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Nick /

Jul 27, 2001 01:08PM

I dunno if this helps or anything but I wanted to see what your moped looked like and (by the way your moped is sweet as hell) I found this::

SUPER SPORT STANDARD FEATURES

2-Speed Auto Transmission

Garelli VIP 49 CC 2-Stroke Engine

125+ MPG 35+ MPH

Chrome Spoke Wheels

Steering Lock

2.50 X 16 Tires

3 Month 3000 Mile Warranty

CDI Electronic Ignition System

High-Low Beam Headlight

Pre-Mix Oil

Locking Storage Compartment

Large 2.65 Gallon Fuel Tank

Signals

Graphics

Weight 150 Lbs

Available in Black, Blue or Red

$1299

It says 3 month 3000 mile warranty well hope this helps.

-Nick

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Sean /

Jul 27, 2001 09:52PM

I just got an email from the owner of the shop in Ironton. he said that the mechanic has been working with the tech people from Avanti. then he told me what i already know "We think that something locked up in trans" then he told me he will have the mechanic give me a call as soon as then figure it out. Also that the Avanti's come with a 90-Day warranty.

Ill keep you informed!!!

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Jimmy /

Sep 19, 2001 09:43AM

Hey Sean,

How did you make out with your transmission problem ? My new Avanti AutoPower did the same back-tire lockup on me coming down a hill as yours did.....maybe this is because of the two-speed transmission design, I don't know... I put more oil in the tranny case and so far it hasn't happened again ..yet ( knock on wood )... but if it happens some more I'm going to have to see about getting a safer transmission box from them..... I don't want to do any speed mods on my bike yet if there is a danger of the back tire locking up again, it's pretty scarey at high speed when that happens.

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miguel /

Sep 19, 2001 01:00PM

i noticed that you had taken the ped to a shop and they were supposed to put transmission fluid in it. don't ever assume that these people do it right, unless they work exclusively w/ mopeds. something as simple as changing the transmission fluid (and as vital) you should do yourself. it's the only way to make sure the right fluid is put in there.

for example ... my minarelli v1 engine requires sae-20 non-detergent oil. other moped engines require something different. if i take it to some random mechanic, he might put the wrong fluid in and ruin my ped. so i always do it myself.

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Dick R. /

Sep 23, 2001 11:16AM

Jimmy:

Did your Autopower tranny start rattling when you came to a stop? This noise and vibration problem on mine is yet to be resolved, but I have been told that the tranny uses a measured amount oil.....that amount falls well short of the capacity of the case.

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don-ohio /

Sep 25, 2001 12:50AM

To Miguel: You can use 10w-30 in it and it'll work great,especially better in the really cold weather.I've also used 5w-50 synthetic Exxon from Auto-Zone (3.19 a quart) in my franco-morini which is very similar and with over 9000 mi. it's not given any problem and doesn't rattle like it did with straight 20 or 30 wt. when it got hot.The Minarelli manual says `non-synthetic',and I don't know why.Does ANYBODY out there know why Minarelli would say that?I know oils have changed a lot since the 1980's.

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Jimmy /

Sep 26, 2001 08:06AM

No, mine doesn't seem to rattle..the back tire just locked up once while coming down a hill....my motor stopped and I skidded to the side of the road....after I was stopped, the back wheel unlocked, I started my motor and rode the rest of the way home..... at home I added some more oil to the tranny and so far it hasn't happened again.... I thin the directions say that it needs like 350ml of oil, but I bet that the moped shop did not measure it , I think he just squirted some in there and said " good enough ". On my Puch you are supposed to sit the bike upright and level and squirt oil into it until it starts to run out...then that is enough oil for the tranny box.

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don-ohio /

Sep 26, 2001 10:11PM

Jimmy,I'm afraid for you on that Autpower.Sean and Davel have both had lock-ups on their Supersports at 30+mph.Don't take a chance on it.If it's under warranty get it back to the dealer because Sean and Davel say it's a defective washer in the clutch area and you don't want to get serioously injured because your bike needs a recall for upgrade.It's not a smart risk to hope against it happening again.Davel's locked up,he freed it up and later it locked up again on him.If I were Avanti motors I'd be very concerned right now.Do the safe thing,man!

MOPED ARMY

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