MOPED ARMY

Hey Jess, todays modern mopeds don't have PEDALS so what do you call them?

I always thought "moped" meant a MOtorized vehicle with PEDals. My 2000 Kinetic Magnum has pedals. I think 2000 would still be considered "modern"? Also, the Magnums are advertised as mopeds, and there are other types with the small wheels which are advertised as scooters.

Heyde wrote:

No scooters don't have fully operative pedals. Do they? Maybe I'm totally lost and vino's aren't no damn moped maddog. They have little tiny wheels and I am one who hates scooters. Honda Express, I go with noped.

I'm sorry, I am a scooter person. I own a vintage vespa (125cc), and no it doesn't have pedals :p

Here in Michigan they say the Vino is a moped, since it has a 49cc engine, and only goes 30 mph.

The state gov't doesn't care about pedals:

"A moped is a two- or three-wheeled vehicle with a motor which has no more than 50cc piston displacement producing two brake horsepower or less. The moped must have a power drive system that does not require shifting gears and cannot have a top speed exceeding 30 mph on level surfaces."

Anything OVER 50ccs that goes OVER 30 mph is considered a motorcycle for licencing and registration purposes. Scooters don't even factor into the equation. So I have to have a damn motorcycle license to scoot around!!

Anyway, the first time i saw the Vino, I couldn't believe my eyes. It is a very sweet little thing... but a very obvious rip off of a vintage Vespa Primavera. It's just Yamaha's way of jumping on the retro scooter/moped bandwagon.....

It looks like a scoot, it sounds like a scoot, BUT it's not a scoot....

As in "Full of it", I assume

Wisky,

Relax, you are getting bent out of shape over a few yahoos. At least stick your complaint in a thread where it makes sense. I just spent 5 minutes trying to figure out who wound you up.

Most of us answer whatever questions we can, some people answer questions they can't, I sometimes do not even know if I am giving advice on a ped or a scooter but it does not bother me at all. What I will not do is answer a question if I do not at least think I know the answer, nor will I call a scooter a moped.

Ron

Last name: Head, brother: Dick

Does anybody know where I can buy a SCOOPED ?

Tom

Wisky,

In my State (IL) my Kinetic moped is classified as a scooter--(see Ron's post about what defines a moped vs. a scooter). There are many people who have scooters who come to this forum, and it doesn't matter to most of us. I'm not biased against scooters although I prefer mopeds. It's probably a lot easier to pedal home a moped than push a scooter home...mostly, I like mopeds better because I can't drive a scooter--I must be some kind of klutz because I cannot balance those things. I feel like I'm going to fall over, and I can't seem to control them.

I don't particularly care for the pedals on my moped--there should be a way to fold them up so they're not in the way while riding. Many times when I stop and put my feet down, I bang into those darn pedals!

Anyway, don't worry about the scooter vs moped "controversy"--if you could call it that--we're all pretty much in the same boat--cars don't respect us, and most people are jealous who don't own either type.

aw geez peg,

are you putting moped in boats too?

what's next airpeds? :{)

I'm with you (and Whisky) I own both a Moped, 76 PUCH Maxi w/a 70 cc euro kit and a scooter, a Derbi Atlantis. Both are quick and easy to ride, though not at the same time. (haven't figured that one out yet). And both are considered to be mopeds by the state of VA. I just enjoy riding them on the back roads through the No. VA "hunt country" and "inside the beltway" because they are fun to operate. Like you, I think we should use this forum as an information vehicle re understanding mopeds and fixing problems w/peds. The peds vs scoots contriversy is an "unwineable" discussion. After all, it's DVM's call not ours here at the M.A. Forum. Personally, I think in a few years, the state DMV's will give a serious look at the Moped classification, particular for the "new scooters" for the reasons we are discussing, i.e. speed, and guess what - - they'll probably come up w/a "new" classification system (based on engine size & speed, which is what they use here in VA now). Dah, go figure.

See ya, Rich - - just geezing along on the PUCH.

Aloha, I have 16! Yamaha Vino's, and a few Vespas also. You can make yor Vino go 40+mph w/o being louder, (their quiet speed is a bonus), for absolutely no cost, and in a half hour. No bull! But be careful, they will be VERY "quick"

It will work on any Yamaha Jog or Spree motor for certain, as well as on the Derbi engines. probably many more also, but especially well mon the Jog, etc. Just take of the 4 bolts holding the exhaust, place the flange end up into a vise, etc. and carefully expand the exhaust bore be 6-8m.m. That's it! Also, make it or any auto mix 2-stroke motor run cooler, better with "Synergyn" oil. It'll blow your mind.