cops/moped rules

damn. tonight, coming home from work, i got pulled over by a fucking cop. the guy was really nice though... he could have arrested me and blah blah blah... more on that later... anyways... here i was, driving down the road to get home as fast as possible... watchin stars, not doin anything bad, driving really well actually... (i would have HATED to see what would have happened if i had been slalom-ing down the road... ;-) ) then, out of the night sky cuts these blues... fuck. i pulled over, cut the engine, and sat there, nervously staring... hoping to god i wasn't gonna be in too much shit. ugh, worst feeling ever... from when you stop till the cop says something... "Hey, how're you doing tonight?" "well, i was doing good, till i saw the blues!" (nervous laughter) "did you know you're not supposed to be driving that after dusk??" (compltete surprise) "ummm, no i didn't, @ all. are you serious??" "yes i am." "damn..." "do you have your license?" "ummm, i have my permit, but not my license" "is it on you?" "yeah, hold on." gets out wallet "here... it says i live in athol, but i just moved to 111 s. main st.... my mom's an alcoholic, i needed to get out." (so he isn't wondering why i'm over a half-hour away from my "house".) "oh... ok. you do know that you're not supposed to be riding after midnight anyways, right?" "well yeah, but i got out of work way later than i was supposed to, and i needed to get home." (coughliecough) "oh... well, i'll be right back" then, there was more silence, and nervousness. if he didn't have my permit, i would have still sat there, but i like to think i'd book it, trying to outrun the cops on a moped... hahaha. anyways, he gets back out, "what're we going to do with you?" (thinking to myself, well you could let me go and i'll never do it again, but i doubt that's your idea...) "i don't know... blah blah blah, explaining where my family is blah blah blah..." "oh, well i can't just let you go, ya know." "well, i can pedal it..." (yeah right, as soon as he's gone, the engine would be roaring again... hahaha.) " for 5 miles? are you crazy? that's a lot of pedaling..." "yeah, well, whatcha gonna do, right?" "well, we can throw this in the trunk and i can give you a ride..." "uhhh, ok"... the whole rest of the way home was disgusting. ugh, to be in the back seat of a fucking cop car? it felt like i was a damned criminal. i was a fucking MOPED RIDER. i was in where all the drunks and murderers and shit sat. it was sick. he kept asking me questions. i think he was trying to get me to quit my job... dork. so yeah... i got home, and boy was that fucking embarrassing... @ least the blues weren't on then... i pulled my moped out of his trunk... and put it in my garage... now, i've gotta check on this "no mopedding after dusk" thing... i've been driving my moped for @ least 8 months now after dusk, and not once have i gotten in trouble. i've ridden past hundreds of cops. nobody's ever said ANYTHING. so, that's my mission for tonight and tomorrow and such... check on that. just thought i'd share my interesting story w/ everybody... figures... the day after i get it fixed, i almost get it impounded... BOOOO!!!!

-Mike

Swarm and Destroy... before dusk though!

Re: cops/moped rules

Michael L. /

What state do you live in? And are you over the age for curfew in your town (if you have one)? I ask because you mentioned a permit. In the Chicago area, if you're out after curfew, your license and insurance is invalid. i knew a kid who got $600 worth of tickets plus supervision for that.. (100 for license and 500 for insurance). Other than that, i dont see why it would be illegal unless it was some specific local law (probably put there cause people were sick of noisy motorcycles going down side streets). Call the local town hall or city hall and see what they say. God I'm glad thats never happened to me..I ONLY ride at night (like 1am alot of the time).

Re: cops/moped rules

Reeperette /

Dude...I happen to be 30+ and they've tried to hand me that shite.

Most cops don't know jack-diddly about mopeds and moped laws, and then try to enforce their lack of knowledge upon you.

While they might bag you on a curfew breach....I know of no state where it is unlawful to ride a moped after dark.

You should hear some of the dumbass crap cops have tried to shovel at me once they've realized their misguided excuse to pull me over is bogus.

They also cannot search your person or your vehicle/saddlebags without consent or probable cause...got into a pushing match with one cop over that, but they were just hassling me cause of the situation down at the plant..(non-union security, union on strike, hassle the gaurds, etc..)..and nothin came of it.

Know the laws related to your wheels and know em COLD, if you know and can quote, without sounding smartass about it, generally they'll just hassle you for about 20 minutes and let you be on your way.

-Ree

"It's for locking the bike up, jerkwad....criminals who steal things ? you familiar with the principle there, deputy dawg ?" - over my bit o chain.

Lights?

Do you have working lights? That should be the only reason you could'nt drive after dusk (except for the curfew thing).

Mike wrote:

>

> damn. tonight, coming home from work, i got pulled over by a

> fucking cop. the guy was really nice though... he could have

> arrested me and blah blah blah... more on that later...

> anyways... here i was, driving down the road to get home as

> fast as possible... watchin stars, not doin anything bad,

> driving really well actually... (i would have HATED to see

> what would have happened if i had been slalom-ing down the

> road... ;-) ) then, out of the night sky cuts these blues...

> fuck. i pulled over, cut the engine, and sat there, nervously

> staring... hoping to god i wasn't gonna be in too much shit.

> ugh, worst feeling ever... from when you stop till the cop

> says something... "Hey, how're you doing tonight?" "well, i

> was doing good, till i saw the blues!" (nervous laughter)

> "did you know you're not supposed to be driving that after

> dusk??" (compltete surprise) "ummm, no i didn't, @ all. are

> you serious??" "yes i am." "damn..." "do you have your

> license?" "ummm, i have my permit, but not my license" "is it

> on you?" "yeah, hold on." gets out wallet "here... it says

> i live in athol, but i just moved to 111 s. main st.... my

> mom's an alcoholic, i needed to get out." (so he isn't

> wondering why i'm over a half-hour away from my "house".)

> "oh... ok. you do know that you're not supposed to be riding

> after midnight anyways, right?" "well yeah, but i got out of

> work way later than i was supposed to, and i needed to get

> home." (coughliecough) "oh... well, i'll be right back"

> then, there was more silence, and nervousness. if he didn't

> have my permit, i would have still sat there, but i like to

> think i'd book it, trying to outrun the cops on a moped...

> hahaha. anyways, he gets back out, "what're we going to do

> with you?" (thinking to myself, well you could let me go and

> i'll never do it again, but i doubt that's your idea...) "i

> don't know... blah blah blah, explaining where my family is

> blah blah blah..." "oh, well i can't just let you go, ya

> know." "well, i can pedal it..." (yeah right, as soon as he's

> gone, the engine would be roaring again... hahaha.) " for 5

> miles? are you crazy? that's a lot of pedaling..." "yeah,

> well, whatcha gonna do, right?" "well, we can throw this in

> the trunk and i can give you a ride..." "uhhh, ok"... the

> whole rest of the way home was disgusting. ugh, to be in the

> back seat of a fucking cop car? it felt like i was a damned

> criminal. i was a fucking MOPED RIDER. i was in where all the

> drunks and murderers and shit sat. it was sick. he kept

> asking me questions. i think he was trying to get me to quit

> my job... dork. so yeah... i got home, and boy was that

> fucking embarrassing... @ least the blues weren't on then...

> i pulled my moped out of his trunk... and put it in my

> garage... now, i've gotta check on this "no mopedding after

> dusk" thing... i've been driving my moped for @ least 8

> months now after dusk, and not once have i gotten in trouble.

> i've ridden past hundreds of cops. nobody's ever said

> ANYTHING. so, that's my mission for tonight and tomorrow and

> such... check on that. just thought i'd share my interesting

> story w/ everybody... figures... the day after i get it

> fixed, i almost get it impounded... BOOOO!!!!

>

>

> -Mike

> Swarm and Destroy... before dusk though!

Re: Lights?

yeah, i've got working lights on the moped... that's why i figured i could drive it after night! and, i was in violation of the "permit restrictions"... not supposed to drive from midnight till 5 in the morning, on a permit... not till i'm 18... i'm only 16 and a half, so whatever... grumph. lol.

-Mike

Re: Lights?

Jamie Leonard /

That's different then - we have a similar thing here in ontario (graduated licensing)

With a motorcycle leaners you aren't supposed to drive after dusk or before dawn. (personally I abuse a loophole, mopeds here can be driven with a car license, so I use a car learners and can drive between 5am to 12pm (fine for me, I don't drive my moped after midnight and I try to NEVER wake up before 5am)

Re: Lights?

In NJ, the way it works is that when you have your MOPED permit, you can't drive after dark (when the sun sets), but once you get your MOPED lisence, you can drive when you want.

Re: Lights?

Did you know that the supreme court ruled curfews unconstitotional? Just thought I'd let yoyu know that. It should take a year or so to filter into the smaller systems but next time they pull that on you mention that. It worked for me. I told him that i had read it in the newspaper and he took my name and number and shit and said he would go check it out. Haven't heard from him since.

Re: Lights?

holy shit, that's sweet... hahaha. i don't know what to say, other than NOW I CAN LOITER AROUND OUTSIDE AND MAKE NOISE ALL NIGHT! HAHA! thanks derek.. you've given me a new hobby... piss off cops even more. j/k, but that is really interesting. thanks a ton man!

-Mike

Re: Lights?

Rich King /

Life really sucs when you are 16. Been there and done it, a long long time ago. In VA, the state just passed a curfew law for young drivers similar to the situation that you described. Since you were getting off from work you got a "free-bee" so to speak rather than a "ticket to the Policemen's Ball. The same thing would have happend in VA if you were driving a car.

I get stopped all the time on my PED on the way home after my weekend part time job.. a "Doorman"(aka Bouncer) in a Rock&Roll Biker Bar. (I'm also old enought to be your grandfather too, 54 thank you very much. Ok, so I'm a crazy "old geezer" driving a Ped.) I did find out why they(the cops) stop me,(to see if I really am crazy. NO.) they are just looking to see (1) if I'm sober and (2) if I have a License (aka not driving a Moped on a suspended license). Evidently being crazy, i.e., riding a Moped at 4:00AM, is not against the law. However, I do admit when they flash the "blues at ya" it scares the c#@* out of you, even at my advanced age.

The only advice I can offer you it stay cool, answer their questions and be done with it. This too will pass. Besides you really don't want to throw your money away to a attorney supporting a lawsuit that you are highly unlikely to win. Just as I say to my rowdy customers, "Mike chill out, tommorows going to be another day". "Life is too short".

See ya, Rich - - "Just geezing along on my PUCH"

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