Piece OF Shi(you know the last leTter)

I have 2500 km on my 2001 Tomos Targa LX (blue), and let me give you a rundown on what has happened to it. Within 200 KM the rear shocks broke. Within the next 1000KM the voltage regulator decided to stop working, hence sending me on a bulb buying and burning frenzy costing me nearly $50!, at about the time where my volt. reg broke, my flashers (signal light control unit) broke as well. (we are at 1200KM so far) all is good for another whole 1300KM (gasp), until the nearly impossible happened; I snapped my throttle cable, yes, i snapped it. after one night of some billyards with friends, i put the choke on, twisted grip, and then snap, no more tension and no more throttle control. . . I am totally disappointed in my Tomos Targa, and the purpose of this message is simply for me to vent. Thank you for listening.

I am planning on getting a bi-turbo, hopefully that chrome wonder all my friends have will help my moped, but then again, its just another thing for ths Tomos P.O.S. to distroy.

-WISKY

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Wayne Broderick /

I just hit 4000k on my 2000 tomos. I had a broken throttle cable and a broken brake cable. Nothing else, yet. I did a lot of research before I bought it. I felt they had a great product, fair price and lots of mods.

I don't think your bike would kill the bi-turbo, but anything is possible. Electrical parts are always trouble, computer, moped or space shuttle. It really does suck when you keep popping headlights though. too much money. I've been told that the vibration kills headlights as well, specially on the tomos.

FYI, my honda express had the same thing, and it ate several 30$ lights before I figured it out. That bike was a 78 though.

I broke my cable too, like I said. I adjusted the adjuster mechanism on the grip, it snapped a few hours later. Were your cable covers intact? When I fixed mine it looked like they had been at a 'pinch point' because the cover showed evidence of wear and kink. Brakes were a similar story. over adjusted and applied hard and it popped.

I've had great luck with my bike, so I'm hoping Tomos is actually a great product and you are seeing routine maintenence combined with a batch of shoddy electrical components.

If my bike dies or has similar problems, I'll let you know.

Is your electrical system currently fixed, or are you still having trouble?

Hope you get it going and have better luck!

Re: Piece OF Shi(you know the last leTter)

yea, my moped shop fixed the electrical for free. And they also fixed the shocks for free (and replaced them with heavyduty adjustables too). I recently broke the throttle cable, so i have yet to see their reaction to it.

_Wisky

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Jamie Leonard /

Personally (and this could be good luck on my part, or what you're going throuigh could just be bad luck) I haven't had any problems with my targa - am up to the 1.2k mark on mileage myself (I ride short distances often so don't put on the miles that terribly fast) Only thing I have to replace is the fairing and thats not the fault of the bike, it was the fault of a car driver who made me eat pavement :)

(Actually was impressed... it survived a fair skid on its side with nothing worse than a cracked fairing... turn signals, side panels, everything else was fine) No problems with the electricals at all (haven't so much as replaced a bulb as yet)

Hmm... the reports I hear from folks, almost makes me wonder if they just get a bad batch now and then? (seems to be either people have lots of issues or practically none and it doesn't get much in between) Might be more quality control issues from time to time rather than design llaws.. ah well, am just glad I've been doing well with mine (And the biturbo is a VERY nice addition to it, I can testify!)

Jamie

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Reeperette /

Well...I hafta say the electrical systems made by Tomos are not quite as reliable as those of other brands...but the rest of em are solid work indeed.

The reason I have such skill at rewiring the damn things isn't cause I happen to enjoy it, you know....heh, got sick of replacing Coils, Regulators and Flashers.

Mind...other than the headlight bulb, regulator and Coil...I would not buy the parts from a moped shop in that moped shops will charge a lot more for them.

The turn signal and tail light bulbs can be found at just about any service station, 2 in a pack for like $0.79...standard 12V single (for turn sigs) or dual (Tail light) filament bulbs do the job nicely....and the 12V Flasher can be found at any auto parts store significantly cheaper than a dealer.

I would reccomend a Digital Voltage Meter, a pair of jumpers , a coil of wire and electrical tape in your toolbox...personally I have one of those cutter/stripper/crimper tools and a box of connectors as well in there...cause I hate having a splice come apart at inopportune moments.

-Ree

(Jumpers) - basically 16" of wire with a gatorclip at each end, helpful for checking to see if you have a break in the line that you cannot see, or testing to figure out where the hell that unconnected wire is supposed to go.

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Ataristyle /

I have had good luck with the my '98 Tomos. I have hit a pot hole at 30mph causing bent rims on the bike. I have replaced the rear rim since it 'wobbled' when I drove. The front one is still bent but it doesn't wobble and is hardly noticeable. I replaced the rims with used ones off what was told a 1995 bike. I don't think they are from a '95 because it says 94 on those rims. I put the rear rim on the back of the bike and used the brake from it too since tomos largened the diameter where the brakes go. I wish I could of used the brakes from my bike on it because they engage much easier. A short while after I replaced the rim I the shocks fell apart. I was driving to my grandpas house and when I put the bike on its center stand the rear wheel just dropped to the ground. I took both shocks apart and what happened was the washer stopped bent(most likely when I had a big impact such as the pothole.) The bike probably could have had both bent and just needed a little while before it broke. I fixed the problem by straightening the washer pieces and galvanized them so that this will never happen again. I have lost 2 blue platic pieces that light up on the instrument panel when the brights are engaged. I finally figured out why I lost them. When I adjust the headlight to point down, the housing hits against the plug that connets to the bulb and pushes up on the plastic piece. Enough for it to get a little loose and come off while riding. I'll have to go back to grinding down a bingo chip and setting it in with some weather stripping addhesive. I have lost the large nut on the steering column do to vibration(along w/ the washer.) That has been replaced thanks to heeters. I put a new light bulb in the headlight. I have put fiber cloth with super glue on stress points of the plastic pieces to prevent them from cracking. The bike has 1680 miles on it and counting. Tomos makes a great bike but i'm sure there are lemons out there. Nothing can be perfect. If I was to go with another moped I wouldn't mind trying Derbi's. It can put out a little of 5hp. My tomos does 38-40mph(if lucky) with a BiTurbo, #56 jet and 27 tooth sprocket. Anyone know if the derbi does 45mph or will it go the same speed as the tomos?

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Ataristyle /

I have had good luck with the my '98 Tomos. I have hit a pot hole at 30mph causing bent rims on the bike. I have replaced the rear rim since it 'wobbled' when I drove. The front one is still bent but it doesn't wobble and is hardly noticeable. I replaced the rims with used ones off what was told a 1995 bike. I don't think they are from a '95 because it says 94 on those rims. I put the rear rim on the back of the bike and used the brake from it too since tomos largened the diameter where the brakes go. I wish I could of used the brakes from my bike on it because they engage much easier. A short while after I replaced the rim I the shocks fell apart. I was driving to my grandpas house and when I put the bike on its center stand the rear wheel just dropped to the ground. I took both shocks apart and what happened was the washer stopped bent(most likely when I had a big impact such as the pothole.) The bike probably could have had both bent and just needed a little while before it broke. I fixed the problem by straightening the washer pieces and galvanized them so that this will never happen again. I have lost 2 blue platic pieces that light up on the instrument panel when the brights are engaged. I finally figured out why I lost them. When I adjust the headlight to point down, the housing hits against the plug that connets to the bulb and pushes up on the plastic piece. Enough for it to get a little loose and come off while riding. I'll have to go back to grinding down a bingo chip and setting it in with some weather stripping addhesive. I have lost the large nut on the steering column do to vibration(along w/ the washer.) That has been replaced thanks to heeters. I put a new light bulb in the headlight. I have put fiber cloth with super glue on stress points of the plastic pieces to prevent them from cracking. The bike has 1680 miles on it and counting. Tomos makes a great bike but i'm sure there are lemons out there. Nothing can be perfect. If I was to go with another moped I wouldn't mind trying Derbi's. It can put out a little of 5hp. My tomos does 38-40mph(if lucky) with a BiTurbo, #56 jet and 27 tooth sprocket. Anyone know if the derbi does 45mph or will it go the same speed as the tomos?

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Ataristyle /

I have had good luck with the my '98 Tomos. I have hit a pot hole at 30mph causing bent rims on the bike. I have replaced the rear rim since it 'wobbled' when I drove. The front one is still bent but it doesn't wobble and is hardly noticeable. I replaced the rims with used ones off what was told a 1995 bike. I don't think they are from a '95 because it says 94 on those rims. I put the rear rim on the back of the bike and used the brake from it too since tomos largened the diameter where the brakes go. I wish I could of used the brakes from my bike on it because they engage much easier. A short while after I replaced the rim I the shocks fell apart. I was driving to my grandpas house and when I put the bike on its center stand the rear wheel just dropped to the ground. I took both shocks apart and what happened was the washer stopped bent(most likely when I had a big impact such as the pothole.) The bike probably could have had both bent and just needed a little while before it broke. I fixed the problem by straightening the washer pieces and galvanized them so that this will never happen again. I have lost 2 blue platic pieces that light up on the instrument panel when the brights are engaged. I finally figured out why I lost them. When I adjust the headlight to point down, the housing hits against the plug that connets to the bulb and pushes up on the plastic piece. Enough for it to get a little loose and come off while riding. I'll have to go back to grinding down a bingo chip and setting it in with some weather stripping addhesive. I have lost the large nut on the steering column do to vibration(along w/ the washer.) That has been replaced thanks to heeters. I put a new light bulb in the headlight. I have put fiber cloth with super glue on stress points of the plastic pieces to prevent them from cracking. The bike has 1680 miles on it and counting. Tomos makes a great bike but i'm sure there are lemons out there. Nothing can be perfect. If I was to go with another moped I wouldn't mind trying Derbi's. It can put out a little of 5hp. My tomos does 38-40mph(if lucky) with a BiTurbo, #56 jet and 27 tooth sprocket. Anyone know if the derbi does 45mph or will it go the same speed as the tomos?

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Ataristyle /

I have had good luck with the my '98 Tomos. I have hit a pot hole at 30mph causing bent rims on the bike. I have replaced the rear rim since it 'wobbled' when I drove. The front one is still bent but it doesn't wobble and is hardly noticeable. I replaced the rims with used ones off what was told a 1995 bike. I don't think they are from a '95 because it says 94 on those rims. I put the rear rim on the back of the bike and used the brake from it too since tomos largened the diameter where the brakes go. I wish I could of used the brakes from my bike on it because they engage much easier. A short while after I replaced the rim I the shocks fell apart. I was driving to my grandpas house and when I put the bike on its center stand the rear wheel just dropped to the ground. I took both shocks apart and what happened was the washer stopped bent(most likely when I had a big impact such as the pothole.) The bike probably could have had both bent and just needed a little while before it broke. I fixed the problem by straightening the washer pieces and galvanized them so that this will never happen again. I have lost 2 blue platic pieces that light up on the instrument panel when the brights are engaged. I finally figured out why I lost them. When I adjust the headlight to point down, the housing hits against the plug that connets to the bulb and pushes up on the plastic piece. Enough for it to get a little loose and come off while riding. I'll have to go back to grinding down a bingo chip and setting it in with some weather stripping addhesive. I have lost the large nut on the steering column do to vibration(along w/ the washer.) That has been replaced thanks to heeters. I put a new light bulb in the headlight. I have put fiber cloth with super glue on stress points of the plastic pieces to prevent them from cracking. The bike has 1680 miles on it and counting. Tomos makes a great bike but i'm sure there are lemons out there. Nothing can be perfect. If I was to go with another moped I wouldn't mind trying Derbi's. It can put out a little of 5hp. My tomos does 38-40mph(if lucky) with a BiTurbo, #56 jet and 27 tooth sprocket. Anyone know if the derbi does 45mph or will it go the same speed as the tomos?

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Ataristyle /

I have had good luck with the my '98 Tomos. I have hit a pot hole at 30mph causing bent rims on the bike. I have replaced the rear rim since it 'wobbled' when I drove. The front one is still bent but it doesn't wobble and is hardly noticeable. I replaced the rims with used ones off what was told a 1995 bike. I don't think they are from a '95 because it says 94 on those rims. I put the rear rim on the back of the bike and used the brake from it too since tomos largened the diameter where the brakes go. I wish I could of used the brakes from my bike on it because they engage much easier. A short while after I replaced the rim I the shocks fell apart. I was driving to my grandpas house and when I put the bike on its center stand the rear wheel just dropped to the ground. I took both shocks apart and what happened was the washer stopped bent(most likely when I had a big impact such as the pothole.) The bike probably could have had both bent and just needed a little while before it broke. I fixed the problem by straightening the washer pieces and galvanized them so that this will never happen again. I have lost 2 blue platic pieces that light up on the instrument panel when the brights are engaged. I finally figured out why I lost them. When I adjust the headlight to point down, the housing hits against the plug that connets to the bulb and pushes up on the plastic piece. Enough for it to get a little loose and come off while riding. I'll have to go back to grinding down a bingo chip and setting it in with some weather stripping addhesive. I have lost the large nut on the steering column do to vibration(along w/ the washer.) That has been replaced thanks to heeters. I put a new light bulb in the headlight. I have put fiber cloth with super glue on stress points of the plastic pieces to prevent them from cracking. The bike has 1680 miles on it and counting. Tomos makes a great bike but i'm sure there are lemons out there. Nothing can be perfect. If I was to go with another moped I wouldn't mind trying Derbi's. It can put out a little of 5hp. My tomos does 38-40mph(if lucky) with a BiTurbo, #56 jet and 27 tooth sprocket. Anyone know if the derbi does 45mph or will it go the same speed as the tomos?

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Ataristyle /

I have had good luck with the my '98 Tomos. I have hit a pot hole at 30mph causing bent rims on the bike. I have replaced the rear rim since it 'wobbled' when I drove. The front one is still bent but it doesn't wobble and is hardly noticeable. I replaced the rims with used ones off what was told a 1995 bike. I don't think they are from a '95 because it says 94 on those rims. I put the rear rim on the back of the bike and used the brake from it too since tomos largened the diameter where the brakes go. I wish I could of used the brakes from my bike on it because they engage much easier. A short while after I replaced the rim I the shocks fell apart. I was driving to my grandpas house and when I put the bike on its center stand the rear wheel just dropped to the ground. I took both shocks apart and what happened was the washer stopped bent(most likely when I had a big impact such as the pothole.) The bike probably could have had both bent and just needed a little while before it broke. I fixed the problem by straightening the washer pieces and galvanized them so that this will never happen again. I have lost 2 blue platic pieces that light up on the instrument panel when the brights are engaged. I finally figured out why I lost them. When I adjust the headlight to point down, the housing hits against the plug that connets to the bulb and pushes up on the plastic piece. Enough for it to get a little loose and come off while riding. I'll have to go back to grinding down a bingo chip and setting it in with some weather stripping addhesive. I have lost the large nut on the steering column do to vibration(along w/ the washer.) That has been replaced thanks to heeters. I put a new light bulb in the headlight. I have put fiber cloth with super glue on stress points of the plastic pieces to prevent them from cracking. The bike has 1680 miles on it and counting. Tomos makes a great bike but i'm sure there are lemons out there. Nothing can be perfect. If I was to go with another moped I wouldn't mind trying Derbi's. It can put out a little of 5hp. My tomos does 38-40mph(if lucky) with a BiTurbo, #56 jet and 27 tooth sprocket. Anyone know if the derbi does 45mph or will it go the same speed as the tomos?

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Ataristyle /

I have had good luck with the my '98 Tomos. I have hit a pot hole at 30mph causing bent rims on the bike. I have replaced the rear rim since it 'wobbled' when I drove. The front one is still bent but it doesn't wobble and is hardly noticeable. I replaced the rims with used ones off what was told a 1995 bike. I don't think they are from a '95 because it says 94 on those rims. I put the rear rim on the back of the bike and used the brake from it too since tomos largened the diameter where the brakes go. I wish I could of used the brakes from my bike on it because they engage much easier. A short while after I replaced the rim I the shocks fell apart. I was driving to my grandpas house and when I put the bike on its center stand the rear wheel just dropped to the ground. I took both shocks apart and what happened was the washer stopped bent(most likely when I had a big impact such as the pothole.) The bike probably could have had both bent and just needed a little while before it broke. I fixed the problem by straightening the washer pieces and galvanized them so that this will never happen again. I have lost 2 blue platic pieces that light up on the instrument panel when the brights are engaged. I finally figured out why I lost them. When I adjust the headlight to point down, the housing hits against the plug that connets to the bulb and pushes up on the plastic piece. Enough for it to get a little loose and come off while riding. I'll have to go back to grinding down a bingo chip and setting it in with some weather stripping addhesive. I have lost the large nut on the steering column do to vibration(along w/ the washer.) That has been replaced thanks to heeters. I put a new light bulb in the headlight. I have put fiber cloth with super glue on stress points of the plastic pieces to prevent them from cracking. The bike has 1680 miles on it and counting. Tomos makes a great bike but i'm sure there are lemons out there. Nothing can be perfect. If I was to go with another moped I wouldn't mind trying Derbi's. It can put out a little of 5hp. My tomos does 38-40mph(if lucky) with a BiTurbo, #56 jet and 27 tooth sprocket. Anyone know if the derbi does 45mph or will it go the same speed as the tomos?

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Ataristyle /

Sorry about those posts....this site was really slow and I thought this would never get through.

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Ataristyle Wrote:

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> Sorry about those posts....this site was really

> slow and I thought this would never get through.

As slow as a stock Tomos with a BiTurbo in New Jersey?

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TOP GUN™ ANDY ⚔ (LSLB) ⚔ /

holy shit walt did you just dig this thread up from 16 years ago

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No thread is too old for a new jersey biturbo joke.

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I mean this is super hilarious for so many reasons. biturbo tomos, complaining about only 3 infinitesimally minute issues popping up in 1000 miles of riding (sounds more like a dream than a nightmare)

then putting 1995 tomos wheels on a 98?

REPLACING BLINKERS?!

this site being slow?!?!?! oh wait

the part that gets me though is the stock tomos regulator failing? huh? I love those things theyre like my most trusted regulator

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32,500 and I still get a kick out of riding my old Tomos. But my new one has more pep.

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Guess you should have bought a Lazer SSR

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Also amazing to see someone scared to swear. I frigging love it

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Totally normal JBOT /

It's t.

The last letter is t.

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Yeah, for some reason my browser opened the genfor at page 2160 and I didn't notice until just now. (edited)

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Ataristyle is living out his days constantly plagued with receiving too many of the item he ordered off Amazon.

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my best friend growing up would REGULARLY buy stuff twice because he didn't think he clicked it right the first time or something.

he got a crazy remote control airplane for like $300 bucks and we destroyed it day 1. then the second one he accidentally ordered fortuitously arrived as we were piecing together the first. hehe

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Tobias Doesn't Care (ง •̀_•́)ง /

tl;dr

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BryAn eurism /

So Ataristyle was Dorian Thorn?

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