These "threads" are very interesting and I personally found out about the "scoot" vs "peds" controversy last winter. I got a '76 Puch w/160 original miles on it. It wouldn't pull the steep hills in my town. I put a 70 cc kit on it and it flys. No real problems but I'm still breaking in it in, so to speak. However, while having it service at the Ped Shop, I looked at and bought a Derbi scooter. While waiting around to get the cash together for the Derbi, I rode the my ped and loved it. I did some interesting things w/it -- like running out of gas on a vintage motorcycle run. Anyway, once I got the scoot, which I ride more than the ped (I won't sell it because I have too much tied up in it) I did learn a few things. First in 24 years, 49 cc technology really has advanced (both had the same displacement even before the kit swap). Let me tell you, my scoot could have literally run away and hid from the the PUCH before the engine work. With the 70 cc kit, the scoot can only run away from the ped, but hiding is not out of the question on a long curvey run. The previous guy is right. Wait 25-30 and see what kind of advances Peds have besides, a bunch of "ole geezers" (like me) enjoying riding them while my geriatic counterparts are trying to sell their Harley's.