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Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: RaginTomos (---.proxy.aol.com)
  • Verified User: ragintomos
  • Date Posted: 05-16-04 22:21

OK… I have a tomos lx 2003 and i have a crap load of stuff on it….shaved manifold, 70cc, biturbo, carb, intake, airfilter, sproket, and I have done a little tweaking. My moped can hit 50 and hit the pin with a slight incline. Now i was talkin to this kid from moped army and he was sayin he weighs 150, 20lbs less than me only has the biturbo and 70cc and he has hit 70mph. When I heard this I said wtf a tomos cant handle that speed yet he swears by it. Now is it just me or is this a bunch of BS. RESPOND WITH WHAT YOU GOT AND WHAT UR TOP SPEED ON FLAT IS!!!!
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  • Author: etheric (---.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net)
  • Verified User: etheric
  • Date Posted: 05-17-04 01:06

I don’t know that this will be very helpful, however:

Stock 83 bullet.
Just ran alonside friends car and was consistently at 31 mph (flat). The speedo sucks and acts more like a VU meter than anything else…useless.
Ran downhill earlier and buried the needle just beyond 40mph, haven’t yet ran alongside car.
I weigh 140. And wind was not a factor today.

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  • Author: Matt (---.dyn.optonline.net)
  • Verified User: tomostuner
  • Date Posted: 05-17-04 01:09

Mine is a Tomos Targa LX 2004 and the speedometer say bone stock I go 35-37. When I get my Bi-Turbo exhaust and full speed kit ill hit around 50-53!
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  • Author: ragintomos (209.158.161.---)
  • Verified User: ragintomos
  • Date Posted: 05-17-04 11:10

Ok Matt now how much you weigh…I weigh 170 and stock my moped did maybe 35 on flat thats if it was completely warmed up…Now the speed kit and biturbo only add about max 10 mph total complete together…The speed kit only adds maybe 5mph not even it is mostly used for torque…Now going down hill you can hit to the pin with even a stock moped so unless you have airfilters, intakes, carbs, and a performance sproket there is no way you will be able to break 50 on a moped on flat ground.
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  • Author: RAY (---.239.159.100.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.ne)
  • Verified User: 99tomosa35
  • Date Posted: 05-17-04 17:10

hey i got 99lx with techno circut pipe with 58jet and k&n rest is stock idd say im hittin a good 47 on flat pinned its not that bad but i just ordered an airisal today so i will be hittin 50 easy i think?.
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  • Author: bassman97 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
  • Verified User: bassman97
  • Date Posted: 05-17-04 18:40

70 isn’t possible. The kid is probably looking at his TOMOS speedo which can be off by as much as 20 mph. 50-55 sounds more reasonable with that setup. Also, you can’t hit 70 really anyway since the tires are only rated up to 62 mph.
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  • Author: bassman97 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
  • Verified User: bassman97
  • Date Posted: 05-17-04 18:43

No, no. The speed kit is NOT used for torque. It’s used for hp. Why? A kit makes your bore larger rather than your stroke. Increaseing the bore=hp while increaseing the stroke=torque. Your speed kit though should add around 10 mph while the Bi Turbo is 5.
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  • Author: RaginTomos (---.proxy.aol.com)
  • Verified User: ragintomos
  • Date Posted: 05-17-04 19:19

Well whats the diff between the regular speedometer and the TOMOS speedo… and yeah RAY that speed sounds about right when that kids said he could do 70 with only 2 upgrades and his friend 50 with a biturbo something was up… PLEASE MORE REPLYS
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  • Author: RYan (---.maysld01.nj.comcast.net)
  • Verified User: lonelycomicguy
  • Date Posted: 05-17-04 20:15

yeah my stock 1990 golden bullet only hits about 31 33 bone stock. and it runs terrible. haha
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  • Author: brian (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
  • Verified User: littlefox0
  • Date Posted: 05-17-04 20:34

me with a twin turbo pipe and i think a 57 jet I hit between 45-47 thats riding next to my bros car and with my freind scooter
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  • Author: RaginTomos (---.proxy.aol.com)
  • Verified User: ragintomos
  • Date Posted: 05-17-04 21:06

twin turbo pipe… what it look like you got a pic… and what type of moped you got brian
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I am probably approching 50mph, flat out, on the flats, no wind. But that is when the temprature is in the high 50s. In warmer weather probably about 44 to 46mph.

Airsail kit, stock sproket, stock carb rejetted, biturbo pipe, and 200pound rider. (Well that is what I weight when I am all bundled up to ride and wearing my helmet.)
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  • Author: RaginTomos (---.proxy.aol.com)
  • Verified User: ragintomos
  • Date Posted: 05-17-04 22:34

Yeah so now when you respond to my Post also tell me if you think that 70mph is BS cuz a tomos wont handle it…
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  • Author: Crisis (---.client.insightBB.com)
  • chrisr
  • Date Posted: 05-17-04 23:52

No moped is going to hit 70mph period. Unless of course you drop it out of an airplane… The transmissions just aren’t built for that much speed. I’ve ridden a Derbi Scooter with a 70cc kit and pipe that I got up to 75mph. But good twist and go 50cc scooters have a whole different level of engine technology then a moped.
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1995 Tomos Targa Stepthru.

-70cc Airsal Kit.
-Dellorto 15/15L Carburetor with included intake and #60 Jet.
-Slightly shaved exhaust port.
-Tecno Circuit exhaust, slightly modded.
-Bored to 15.2mm straight intake manifold. (1992-1995 models)
-Machined cylendar head.
-26/22 sprocket configuration. (soon to change)

Depending on humidity and wind, weighing 160lbs., at normal temperature with calm winds the bike will run about 52mph on flat land if humidity is a little high and the outside temperature is lower than usual, I can get a little over 55mph.

Hope this helps.

-A.J.
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My big top speed

  • Author: Alain (---.182-70-69.mc.videotron.ca)
  • Verified User: vermi
  • Date Posted: 05-18-04 11:29

TOMOS TARGA LX
A big 51 km/h (30 mph) all stock.
I just wait my Bullet exhaust form Max Benton!!!
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  • Author: bassman97 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
  • Verified User: bassman97
  • Date Posted: 05-18-04 16:46

70 mph is BS since all the parts on the moped cannot handle that much speed and for the modifications done, is not even achievable unless you go down a 45 degree hill. I know I can go about 50 since I tested my speedo w/ the police radar trailers they put on roads that tell you how fat you’re going. Mine was 1-2 mph off which is pretty good.
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  • Author: brian (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
  • Verified User: littlefox0
  • Date Posted: 05-18-04 18:17

the motorscooter I am buying this weekend goes 65mph stock we took off the speed limiter
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  • Author: RaginTomos (---.proxy.aol.com)
  • Verified User: ragintomos
  • Date Posted: 05-18-04 18:45

Brian there are certain scooters or moped that go faster than a moped due to higher gear ratio or more gears…So unless you got the Tomos LX which this is about… there is no way we are goin 65mph stock!!!PEACE… and keep responding…
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  • Author: stephen (---.carolina.rr.com)
  • Verified User: ragintomos
  • Date Posted: 05-18-04 19:19

dude I have an 03 tomos sprint that does 35mph all stock. I weigh 120lbs. I plan to get the raptor kit from Ikes bikes. I have heard good reviews about it and the pipe you get is sweet looking. I emailed the owners of the kit in slovenia and they said I should hit a steady 55 with their kit. That is with stock sprokets to. So I am geting 27 tooth front sproket and I think I will be going fast. Cheak out www.mopedkit.com
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  • Author: RaginTomos (---.proxy.aol.com)
  • Verified User: ragintomos
  • Date Posted: 05-18-04 20:27

yeah the raptor kit is one of the best speed kits out much better than the airsal yet the raptor puts alot of wear and tear on ur moped… get ready for alot of broken plastic pieces on your moped from vibration… otherwise all the like to you..
PEACE….AND KEEP RESPONDING
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  • Author: RAY (---.239.183.159.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.ne)
  • Verified User: 99tomosa35
  • Date Posted: 05-18-04 21:24

how is a 60cc kit better than airisal 70cc kit 67displacement or wat ever u wanna say?
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  • Author: RaginTomos (---.proxy.aol.com)
  • Verified User: ragintomos
  • Date Posted: 05-18-04 21:36

the raptor kit for some reason has a better top end speed then the 70cc kit i dont know all the specs…
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I heard that the Raptorkit is in general, very close to an Airsal kit and the Airsal kit gives the same performance, but you must give it more miles to break in. We installed a Raptorkit on a friend’s bike and it can’t keep up with an Airsal kit. I think the Raptorkit just has a quicker rev, to make it seem faster than an Airsal, but the Airsal can definately handle more.

-A.J.
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  • Author: stephen (168.190.200.---)
  • Verified User: thetomosa35
  • Date Posted: 05-19-04 10:24

On the raptor kit wesite it says that the kit includes the airsal 65cc kit, 16mm deltoro carb, bigger intake, special spark plugs, four different jet sizes, and the technigs next exhaust. Is there that much difference from 65 to 70cc.
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  • Author: RaginTomos (---.proxy.aol.com)
  • Verified User: ragintomos
  • Date Posted: 05-19-04 15:03

the cubic centimetes of whatever in the engine that was the cc is for example a stock moped is 50cc.
KEEP RESPONDING THIS IS THE BEST POST AND ALSO IF YOU HAVE FIGURED OUT SOMETHING TO MAKE A MOPED GO FASTER POST THAT TOO AND ATTACH SOME PICS.
PEACE!!!!
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  • Author: RAY (---.239.243.207.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.ne)
  • Verified User: 99tomosa35
  • Date Posted: 05-19-04 15:25

na haha 49cc lol
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  • Author: bassman97 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
  • Verified User: bassman97
  • Date Posted: 05-19-04 16:20

You have to realize that the Raptor Kit IS the Airsal kit. Also, the Airsal/Raptor kit is not 70cc, it’s somewhere around 64-67cc (do the math). The only difference is that the Raptor kit includes the Airsal kit, a Technigas Next pipe, a 16mm Dell’Orto carb, and matching intake while the Airsal kit is just the 64-67cc cylinder, piston, rings, and reed valve.
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  • Author: stephen (---.carolina.rr.com)
  • Verified User: bassman97
  • Date Posted: 05-19-04 19:07

So the raptor kit would be faster than say a 70cc airsal kit, biturbo, 15mm deltoro carb and bigger intake. I see this setup at mopedjunkyard.com, moped warehouse.com, and steves moped.com. The raptor kit and this kit are both around 350 bucks. What do you think the better buy would be?
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  • Author: bassman97 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
  • Verified User: bassman97
  • Date Posted: 05-19-04 21:16

A Raptor Kit is only faster since it has everything included w/ it. Also, there is NO 70cc Raptor or Airsal kit. I would prefer the Airsal kit though since it allows room for customization and greater speeds since you don’t have to be stuck with parts you don’t want and can get better ones. By the way, don’t go to Steve’s Moped. They are a bunch of retared ass-wipes that don’t know an engine is.
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  • Author: RaginTomos (---.proxy.aol.com)
  • Verified User: ragintomos
  • Date Posted: 05-19-04 21:17

Well i got the airsal,biturbo,carbIntake,and a custom K&N air filter..
BUT DO WHAT YOU WANT TRY THINGS OUT AND GET OTHER RESPONSE…
PEACE
ps. people add some pics!!!!
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Airsal

Now that someone actually mentions it, the Airsal kit does seem to be extremely similar to that of the Raptorkit, just a different reed valve. The actual notation of the speed kit on the Airsal isn’t 70 and it’s not 64. The actual displacement (as notated on the sticker on the side of the box) is clearly written as 67.5cc. Just as a Tomos stock is considered to be 50cc’s when it’s actually 48.8cc. It’s just all rounding.

-A.J.
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  • Author: RaginTomos (---.proxy.aol.com)
  • Verified User: ragintomos
  • Date Posted: 05-20-04 15:10

ADD SOME PICS OF YOUR MOPED!!!!
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here
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i have a 1996 targa lx with a 70cc kit (parma), bitrubo, 62 jet, ‘cold air intake’. i havent topped out yet but my spedo says 45 and cruises nice at 40. i would like to get a bigger sprocket but am afraid of the acceleration decrease
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tomos’s suck my puch can take any of yours
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OOOOH! My car can take your Puch. I think b/t 55 and 60mph for a bunch of old Slovenian Beer cans is pretty good.

It’s nice to be cocky.

-A.J.
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  • Author: Targa5150 (---.accel.pas.earthlink.net)
  • Verified User: targa5150
  • Date Posted: 05-26-04 17:59

hahahahaha!!!!!! 70mph? get real… Fastest I ever saw was an old style Puch that did 63 but soon after blew the wrist pin bushing. But then again it had masive porting, milled head, custom sprockets, custom pipe, and running 118 octane race gas.

Anyway, Here is my set up so far:

2000 Tomos Targa LX

Adjustable aftermarket rear Shocks
Uni air filter
27 tooth speed sprocket
Bi-Turbo Exahust
NGK B7HVX Racing Spark Plug
#66 Jet (a little rich but thats ok)
40 psi on tires

Depending on the weather… it will hit 45 mph on a good day.

Alan
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70mph is what he said. That was a two-speed I think but he said someone beside him in a car clocked him and said he did just under it. He blew his transmission a little while later. Now he’s running a little faster than 55 on a Puch one-speed.

-A.J.
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  • Author: joe (---.proxy.aol.com)
  • Verified User: jmhahnl
  • Date Posted: 05-27-04 12:57

now us sachs guys don’t have the luxury of big bore kits and oversized ventures. but a big D with the same size sprocket as a tomos a 32 tooth with the spark advace on the max will go 45 mph on the flat and 55mph on a good clip as you know the clutch is only rated for 30mph. now i ported a 505 1A head
with a big d crank and that went 50 until some fat *&$@ rode it and shot the rist pin clip thru the cylinder wall. i have for ever trying to regain that speed and what i,m thinking is i way a lot more now. so 20lbs is a big difference on a 49CC mines 51cc i stroked it .as for 70mph on a moped if you were a mathamatition you coul figure it out because its all about ratio. HP and torque have nothing to do with actual speed .it’s RPM that gives you tho speed HP just sustains it. so if you knew how many turns of the crank to one turn of the tire to the circumference 0f the tire times the RPM converted to mph. you see it is possible to do it on a calculator. if i were a little smarter i could probably do it. so if theres a rocket scientist who ride a moped may be can tell us how much RPM it would take to go 70mph. be sides maybe the kid lives in colorado and flat is down.
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Tire rating

  • Author: Michael (---.zoominternet.net)
  • Verified User: mopedpittsburgh
  • Date Posted: 05-27-04 13:10

Although the tire rating may only be at a certain speed the truth is it can handle about 10 to 20 mph more. If a tire shows that it can handle up to about 50 then they will mark it down to about 30-45. If they had marked it at 50 and it blew at 45 then there is a big *ss law suit. Not that I’m defending the kid because it’s straight up bs. I just wanted to let you know.
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  • Author: joe (---.proxy.aol.com)
  • Verified User: jmhahnl
  • Date Posted: 05-27-04 14:05

“wow” I can’t beleive you guys spend all that money on that big bore kits and pipes and that’s all you get. i guess you can see that all that stuff is just tio give you back all the low end power you loose from putting on a small sprocket. i think a new sachs prima with the 49cc big D and a 27 tooth sprocket would go fifty just take it a little while to get there.my 32 tooth does 45mph. maybe the puch guy is right those tomos do suck. i saw one at a cosignment shop. and the stock sprocket was as small as my modified. my stock sprocket is a 45 tooth. and you guys got a twelve volt ignition!
what’s up with that?
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  • Author: ray (---.239.147.128.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.ne)
  • Verified User: 99tomosa35
  • Date Posted: 05-27-04 21:31

hey guys i traded my friend my techno circut for his bi turbo and for some reason i wanted 2 see how it would change slower or faster which i thought slower because a lot of people down the bi turbo pipe but it made it faster in top end way more then the techno circut pipe for some reason which i dont no but after a little bit of rideing the cap flew of the back and it got louder so i like it way better now i think its hittin 50 now with 58 jet k&n bi turbo and set for premix ray.
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  • Author: DAN (---.dyn.optonline.net)
  • Verified User: mx260
  • Date Posted: 08-05-05 19:34

Yo I tested my moped on a dino and i have a biturbo and a jet on an lx and it reached 46 and 27lbs of torge and a whopping 6 hp vstock it only reached 38 and im 110
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  • Author: Sean (---.dyn.optonline.net)
  • Verified User: semerfi28
  • Date Posted: 08-05-05 19:57

i ot a tomos lx 02 with a next pipe and it only hits 38 unless my speedo is wrong i dont know you guys tel me but that kid robably was blind and deaf
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  • Author: Sean (---.trnrsv01.nj.comcast.net)
  • Verified User: 03ttlxbg
  • Date Posted: 08-05-05 21:50

Both Specs : 145Pound Rider
2002 Tomos Targa LX
50CC
Drilled Baffles Out Of Stock Pipe
Shaved about | | off the skirt of the piston,
17mm Carb, New Intake.
K&N Air Filter.
52 Jet I Believe.
53-55MPH With No Speed Kit —- All i paid for was carb, jet, and Air Filter. Used my Dremel (Black And Decker RTX) Grinder to shave the piston, then smoothed off the rough edges.
B4HS Plug.

2003 Tomos Targa LX
50CC
Bi-Turbo Pipe
14 MM Stock Carb
Stock Jet
40-42MPH
B5HS/B6HS Plug
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  • Author: ggg (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
  • Verified User: 40magcartridge
  • Date Posted: 08-05-05 22:33

Brian, did you go to braddock elemnetary by any chance? I think you were in my first grade class.
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  • Author: josh (---.wildwd01.nj.comcast.net)
  • Verified User: goose0007
  • Date Posted: 08-05-05 22:54

i was going down a pretty steep bridge on my 04 stock lx and tucked down behinde the sheild like a rice rocket and had it to the m in tomos which would be like 50-55 but speed limit is like 55 and cars do like 60 down the bridge and they were still passing me fast tomos speedos suck im lookin for an accurate speed for my moped
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  • Author: josh (---.wildwd01.nj.comcast.net)
  • Verified User: goose0007
  • Date Posted: 08-05-05 22:55

then it started to shake so i slowed down
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  • Author: zack (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
  • Verified User: mtxrawkus
  • Date Posted: 08-06-05 00:58

I can hit low 40’s with lots of mods, then again, I’m being honest and not bullshitting like the rest of you teenyboppers. lol (sighh)
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“Author: DAN (—-.dyn.optonline.net)
Verified User: mx260
Date Posted: 08-05-05 19:34
Y
o I tested my moped on a dino and i have a biturbo and a jet on an lx and it reached 46 and 27lbs of torge and a whopping 6 hp vstock it only reached 38 and im 110”

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Where did you find a dynamometer small enough to measure the power on a moped?
I heard that they are pretty rare.
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  • Author: Mike (---.dialne.bright.net)
  • Verified User: dookie
  • Date Posted: 08-07-05 12:57

Way back in the beginning of the summer i had my tomos sprint above 50. Until all of the sudden my bi-turbo went and my engine got super dirty from taking it off road which was very stupid. Right now im hitting above 40, maybe 45. i got (or had but fixing)

bi-turbo
27/22 t sprockets
unrestricting air filter
70cc airsal kit
14mm dellorto carb.
bored exhuast port
bored intake manifold
high performance wiseco piston

Mike
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  • Author: Andrej (---.adsl.net.t-com.hr)
  • Verified User: andrej
  • Date Posted: 08-07-05 14:41

i put new rings on my tomos flexer and now it is going 75km/h everything is stock except exhaust
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  • Author: jimmy (---.cinci.res.rr.com)
  • Verified User: jimmy
  • Date Posted: 08-07-05 14:56

My Puch maxi got clocked at 50mph last night. Thats on level surface. I was proud!!
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  • Author: Brock (---.clvdoh.adelphia.net)
  • Verified User: link_jr87
  • Date Posted: 08-08-05 09:54

Yeah Jimmy! That gearing worked out good!! Matt told me you weren’t laying down, either!? either way, thats awesome. You pught to try out the 18 tooth front on there, and have her clocked again!! we kittied that green Targa I bought, Smitty ported the jug for me, and man does it fly! lol. Take ‘er easy, Jimmy. Don’t get too crazy on that Puch!!
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  • Author: bryce (---.proxy.aol.com)
  • Verified User: tomossprint703
  • Date Posted: 08-08-05 11:33

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  • Author: Targa5150 (---.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net)
  • Verified User: targa5150
  • Date Posted: 08-08-05 13:58

Update: I no longer have the 2000 tomos – Was totaled

Now riding a 2005 Yellow Tomos Targa LX

Mods to bike so far:
Adjustable aftermarket rear Shocks
27 tooth front sprocket
Stocking air filter
Modified reedvalve upgrade
Bi-Turbo Exahust
NGK B7HVX Racing Spark Plug
#66 Jet
A little bit of a port job on the exhaust
40 psi on tires was sugested

On a cool day I hit 45mph full throtle & crouching!
My preevious post was wrong… The black one did 38 or so.

Alan
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  • Author: jimmy (---.cinci.res.rr.com)
  • Verified User: jimmy
  • Date Posted: 08-09-05 01:08

Haha! there is still work to do on that puch. I havent had it port matched or ported yet, so i might send it away to smitty this winter. I wonder if i can get 60mph? I can still change the tires to slicks, tune it better, gear the front to a 18t, etc…. so much!
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  • Author: Ty (---.159.155.23.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net)
  • Verified User: punkbety
  • Date Posted: 08-09-05 10:12

lookI dont have a moped cuz I’m only 12 but Im geting a 2005 streetmate how fast are they with out upgrade kits?
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  • Author: Ty (---.159.154.40.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net)
  • Verified User: punkbety
  • Date Posted: 08-09-05 15:27

Its me again dos any 1 want to start a beginers page
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to jimmy

GET THAT E-50 RUNNIN! SEND IT TO ME, OR DROP IT OFF TO ME…I’LL PUT IT TOGETHER! gosh, bout time you get it runnin. seriously, i’ll finish the motor if you’ll drop it off to me.
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: Palmer D (---.eatntn01.nj.comcast.net)
  • Verified User: revival04
  • Date Posted: 08-10-05 01:12

04 revival with bullet exaust and size 58 jet. hit 33 on police radar i checked a few times
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

95mph….the the bed of a 345ci V8 truck!

no really, this thread is stupid. lots of these “kids”(no pun intended) are just posting there un-realistic speeds, and then argure about it later.

1996 Tomos Targa LX. 70cc Arisal, Techno estorial, 27t front sproket, #64 jet with only the metal screen filter. my yop speed….46-48mph. on any given day. this weekend i’m going to do some porting work to it and tune alittle. possibly bore my carb too??
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: chas1969 (---.static.bycy.mi.charter.com)
  • Verified User: chas1969
  • Date Posted: 08-10-05 14:08

I agree with speedo error is tons … 10% + (on the speedo) is so common. The gold standard is gps and getting a reading off that. Radar signs are ‘up’d’ also to slow people down and car fallowing are off too.

My fastest by moped is tommos sprint- stock jug, stock carb with upjet and homlet exhaust …. 41 mph (real mph) and sitting up wot relaxed cruising is 36-38mph.

Even my kitted vespa 180cc goes only 65 mph. And for saftey and relaiblility sake stay in the 40’s mph with your mopeds.

Also if your making a claim …... BACK IT UP !!! Get a gps reading!!!!!

CC
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: Ryan (---.columbus.res.rr.com)
  • Verified User: 85bullet
  • Date Posted: 08-11-05 01:01

my 1985 tomos silver bullet hit 33 mph
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: alex (---.nrp4.brv.mn.frontiernet.net)
  • Verified User: oakgrovesellers
  • Date Posted: 08-11-05 09:14

I have not modified my Tomos Quadro kick start and it goes 30km. About 33km if I am going down a hill.
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: Derek (---.ipt.aol.com)
  • Verified User: f150prerunner
  • Date Posted: 08-16-05 00:45

I went by a speed trap the other day and it read 51 mph.
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: scott at tomos (---.83.123.154.nw.nuvox.net)
  • Verified User: scottattomos
  • Date Posted: 08-16-05 11:48

I have been talking to one of our dealers out there who is trying to overcome the gearbox problem by creating a slide out gear that will enable the TOMOS to have overdrive. I told him to let me know if he has accomplished this, because he could probably sell a million of them. He said that if he can do this you could probably get 80-90 mph out of it.

Hmmmmmmmm, 90MPH = drum brakes, hmmmmmmm….
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: Wiil Laing #4 (---.columbus.res.rr.com)
  • Verified User: knucklpunk
  • Date Posted: 08-16-05 11:51

I have not tried to get a top speed but I am sure with the right sprokets I could hit 70mph.

Will Laing
#4
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  • Author: Saabsonettguy (---.rmo.bellsouth.net)
  • Verified User: saabsonettguy
  • Date Posted: 08-16-05 13:06

A 3-speed auto tomos motor would be awesome, It will just need better clutches, intake and output shaft seals. Whats the deal with the Curved A-35 intake anyway? Is the circled part designed to be a boost port or something like that?


Grey
Live to ride, Ride to work
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: shane (---.bchsia.telus.net)
  • Verified User: ssiguy
  • Date Posted: 08-16-05 22:24

Hi everybody.
Just joined and I am going to get a 2004 TomosLX.
I would like some upgrades {that can be purchased in Canada} for no more than $400CDN.
I need speed more than hill climbing. I weigh about 200lbs.

I am looking for someone to tell me what I need to get to bring me up to a 70cc with speed being my most important objective and what I can expect, realistically, on the flat.

I’m a bit of a moped moron so please say it in ENGLISH.
Thanks, Shane
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: Cyberian (---.dyn.optonline.net)
  • Verified User: cyberian
  • Date Posted: 08-17-05 00:29

“Author: Wiil Laing #4 (—-.columbus.res.rr.com)
Verified User: knucklpunk
Date Posted: 08-16-05 11:51
I have not tried to get a top speed but I am sure with the right sprokets I could hit 70mph.

Will Laing
#4
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Will – You are the only one in this post claiming 40+ that I actually believe!
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: Targa5150 (---.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net)
  • Verified User: targa5150
  • Date Posted: 08-17-05 03:26

lol… come to So. California & i’ll prove it. :-)

Alan
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Re: Tire rating

  • Author: GPer526 (---.trnrsv01.nj.comcast.net)
  • Verified User: gper526
  • Date Posted: 08-17-05 07:48

Speed rating is based on an hour of operation. So if your tire is rated at 120 mph, it’s constructed to do 120 for an hour
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: GPer526 (---.trnrsv01.nj.comcast.net)
  • Verified User: gper526
  • Date Posted: 08-17-05 08:09

2001 Tomos Sprint
67cc Airsal
Technigas pipe
mild intake porting
I went through the same speed trap and I only hit 42. it was the second pass too, the first pass was 41. On the street I was like half a bike length from Derek. I just don’t know. I just purchased a Dremel. So we’ll see what I can do.

Two Strokes Never Die!

Jonathan
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: Derek (---.ipt.aol.com)
  • Verified User: f150prerunner
  • Date Posted: 08-17-05 16:15

Keep trying Jonathon, lol, just kidding
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: Rick (---.trnrsv01.nj.comcast.net)
  • Verified User: rv34
  • Date Posted: 08-17-05 23:03

those thinge are never right, anything affects them. It once said that my Revival was going 45mph. I KNOW that it can’t do that. Maby 33-35. Most of the time when derek went through it it said like 43-44.
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34 with the biturbo

  • Author: jswift (---.nas4.savannah2.ga.us.da.qwest.net)
  • Verified User: jswift
  • Date Posted: 11-15-06 00:23

But the main point is that it increases your average speed for hill climbing.
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Re: 34 with the biturbo

  • Author: jswift (---.nas4.savannah2.ga.us.da.qwest.net)
  • Verified User: jswift
  • Date Posted: 11-15-06 00:33

Point being that once you break the 30 barrier, you become a target. The whole idea of peds (mo/no) is to not break 30 in most states and not have to tag and insure. Sure they can do 40, but once they do, you have to tag them and ride in the traffic lane instead of bike lane/as far right as possible.
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Re: 34 with the biturbo

^^pic^^
1996 tomos targa lx
-biturbo
-”secret weapon” air filter
-58 jet
-machined head

anywhere around 45-47mph on flat

soon to have ported kit, high comp head, larger intake and carb!
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: magne (194.69.221.---)
  • Verified User: jossi
  • Date Posted: 11-15-06 11:16

tomos a-3,airsal 44mm,some porting,16/16 dellorto,biturbo
stock sprocket,use the 90 jet,44mph whit gps..
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I have a 2005 Tomos Targa LX

Cosmetics:

Chopped front mask
Car h3 fog light headlights
h3 8500k HID bulbs
Dual mirrors
Racing switches
Smoked blinkers
Straight handlebars
LED tailights
removed fenders
Side kickstand
Green neon light

Engine:

Airsal kit
Tecnigas Next chrome (not pictured)
exhaust ported
68 jet
E3 racing spark plug
Uni air filter
NGK racing spark plug wire (not pictured)
modified reed valve

All mods done by me, a 15 year old
No help from adults!!

End result = about 47-50 mph
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  • Author: erikelhammer (---.pix.wmich.edu)
  • erikel
  • Date Posted: 11-15-06 18:26

I’ve got a 1981 Motobecane with an MBK 51 reedvalve crankcase, doppler 50cc cylinder (6 port), doppler high compression o-ring head, doppler expansion exhaust, fiber reedvalve, dellorto 15.15 with a 68 jet. Runs mid 40s.
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  • Author: Rick (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
  • Verified User: rv34
  • Date Posted: 11-16-06 08:12

2000 Tomos Sprint

70cc Airsal, ported by smitty
Dellorto 16mm carb
Tecno estoral exhaust
Smoothed Polini reedvalve
16mm Straight intake
Kick start

About 50mph, flat out crouched.
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: Chaz (---.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net)
  • Verified User: chazeverest
  • Date Posted: 08-18-07 22:18

One thing you all seem to be forgetting is how much horsepower is needed to achieve 70mph. Depending on the weight of rider and bike combined and wind resistance you need in the region of 16 to 20 horsepower to achieve 70mph. No kit I have ever seen for a Tomos will let it produce that much HP. It doesn’t matter how high the gearing is on ou bike if you don’t have the HP to pull the higher gearing. 50-55 is the most you can hope to get out of a Tomos as the max HP you are going to get out of it is somewhere in the region of 6hp or so.
Modern 2 stroke scooters with Yamaha/Minarelli based engines are going to be the fastest. Aprilia, Italjet etc will do about 55 mph when derestricted and up to about 80 mph when tuned. Those engine will rev to 15,000rpm and produce about 20hp. That will give you between 70 and 80 with raised gearing and a mallossi over range CVT. I am doing a tune (I do this for a living) for a kid right now. I am going to use a Paramkit 70cc, Homoet expansion chamber, 20mm DelOrto carb, Boysen reeds, 33 tooth sprocket. I am expecting a top speed of a max of about 50, maybe 55 mph.
I can achieve that on my Derbi without any tuning. I can tune my Derbi and achieve 70mph. Go to heavymotor dot com to see what a modern scooter can do. Go to Youtube to see what a Tomos can do.
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  • Author: cm_matt01 (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
  • Verified User: cm_matt01
  • Date Posted: 08-18-07 22:33

2005 tomos lx. hits pin everytime. 50 mph.
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: Neko (---.c3-0.129-ubr2.lnh-129.md.cable.rcn.co)
  • Verified User: breaker7000
  • Date Posted: 08-18-07 22:45

05 LX, turbo. 45ish 50 on big hills. :)
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: dallas (---.dhcp.insightbb.com)
  • Verified User: billyburgles
  • Date Posted: 08-18-07 23:17

2005 tomos sprint
biturbo.
standard 53 jet
standard 26front tooth 22 back
my girlfriend said 41 on flat, 38 up a mild hill. down hill 43.
so I’m probably cruising about 40 normally.

question. What sort of air filter should I be looking for? I want to keep it simple with the pipe, an air filter, and upjet. any recommendations on that sort of set up?
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Re: My big top speed

  • Author: double (---.cpe.mountaincable.net)
  • Verified User: double
  • Date Posted: 08-19-07 09:04

Airsal are 63.7 cc’s All are the same whether Raptor or your combination of parts using Airsal as base jug.
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

I have a 2001 LX with almost no mileage (still breaking it in).
It has a bi-turbo exhaust – all else is stock.
I weight 175 lbs. My tire pressures are 25 front and 50 real.
I can make 55 kph on any flat road just about any time.
I have pegged the speedo a couple of times at 62 kph.
That works out to a max of 37 or 38 mph. I believe that is reasonable. The stock suspension and brakes are not up to much more especially if the road surface is less than ideal.
Mopeds and motorcycles are not aerodynamic. The faster you go the more air you are pushing. The only way to go faster on a moped is to increase the revs as there is no 3rd, 4th, or 5th gear!
I do not believe this fellow has made an honest 70 mph on his moped. He may have a bad speedo. Anyhow 70 mph on a moped would scare the daylights out of me and I also own 2 motorcycles.
Mopeds are designed from day one to go 30 mph. The frame, the brakes, the suspension and even the engine are designed to perform reliably at these speeds. That some people get a lot more out of them is tribute to the robustness of the original design. I love my mopeds.
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Re: My big top speed

Slovenians drive under the metric system. 55 sounds about right in kilometres. Just over 30 mph.
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Re: My big top speed

  • Author: MrNiceGuy (---.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com)
  • Verified User: huffypuffy
  • Date Posted: 08-19-07 18:45

guys, check the dates on posts before you bring them back to the top. This is from 2004
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  • Author: Chris CMM (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
  • Verified User: cmm1012
  • Date Posted: 08-19-07 20:36

matt my moped is faster then yours by a good 3-4 mph .. and i go 52 on a cool day … kevin wiley goes 50 and he’s faster then you .. you don’t go 50 .. maybe 47 or 48 but not 50 … not trying to be a dick but your just not going 50
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: cm_matt01 (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
  • Verified User: cm_matt01
  • Date Posted: 08-19-07 22:46

umm yeah chris since i had my staight intake it was doing 50. but i just took it off. so yeah im in the 40’s now.
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

Tomos mopeds could be much faster if they had more gears or even better CVT transmission.
They rev out much to quickly in 2nd. They really need at least 4 or 5 gears, 6 would be even better.
My old FS1E would hold 50mph all day long and that had 4 gears and only produced about 2.5hp
My Fantic, which had 6 gears would do almost 60mph, but that would be screaming at that speed. The fastest standard moped (not all countries or even states say a moped must be an automatic) I have ever seen (without any tuning) was a friends Fantic GT, which did 65mph. These are all Euro spec mopeds from the 70ies (before speed restrictions etc). Modern mopeds (nopeds) with gears manage about 60-65mph when the restrictors are taken off, modern 2 stroke scooters manage about 45 to 55, they are usually a little better on acceleration, because you don’t have to mess with gears (CVT transmissions) just hold them wide open until you hit top speed.
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Re: My big top speed

The Raptor kit uses an Airsal cylinder, it’s the same cylinder and piston. The difference is the combination of other parts, ie carb, pipe, reeds, inlet manifold, pipe etc.
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Re: Enter you tomos speed here please respond!!!

  • Author: Jake (---.woh.res.rr.com)
  • Verified User: mopedjake
  • Date Posted: 08-20-07 13:50

1989 tomos a3, ported/polished. high flow k and n filter, custom intake, biturbo.



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